import random

start = 100000

# сынчу
total_in = start
total_out = 0
while total_in > 2:
    total_in -= 3
    if random.random() < 0.25:
        total_in += 1
    total_out += 1

print(total_out)

# еула
total_in = start
total_out = 0
while total_in > 2:
    total_in -= 3
    if random.random() < 0.1:
        total_out += 1
    total_out += 1

print(total_out)